Joe Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 How many are using these? What do you like about these over other heaters? Are they really worth the big price tag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff70 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I have one in my nice tank. I plan to change this on every other year as opposed to yearly which I currently do in my other tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff70 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 but I have an apex now so I probably wont change it out until I get an alert to a failure. Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley000 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, jeff70 said: but I have an apex now so I probably wont change it out until I get an alert to a failure. Did @AspiringLobophyllia Give it back? Speaking of which where has he been hiding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff70 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 NO , I bought another one; lol he helped me set this one up. senior year at Miami U (oxford Ohio) He's probably studying for his wine making class! hopefully he'll come up for the swap. Muttley000 and crimsonvice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Can't say I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonvice Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, jeff70 said: NO , I bought another one; lol he helped me set this one up. senior year at Miami U (oxford Ohio) He's probably studying for his wine making class! hopefully he'll come up for the swap. Hope he does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 13 hours ago, jeff70 said: I have one in my nice tank. I plan to change this on every other year as opposed to yearly which I currently do in my other tank. Do you feel it’s worht the extra money? A 300 watter costs $140. That’s almost 3x the cost of what I normally use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff70 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Joe, my wife and I have had tanks since 1988. A malfunctioning heater took out a tank in the mid 90's , It was beautiful fowlr tank (had a tusk and emperotor along with elegance corals and big birdsnests ) and we really cut back to a small (29 gallon) with open brain and some mushrooms and a damsal. We moved in 2007 and moved everything into a 30 gal long with a sump and all went well. Twice we caught a heater that got stuck in the on position and were very lucky it didn't kill everything, about every 2-3 years the heater would fail. I've used in-line heaters and titanium with independent control. and everything fails, it just is catastrophic when it fails in the "on" position. these heaters have microprocessors that theoretically will not fail in the on position, although there are stories I've heard that don't agree with this. I use 2 200 watt because of the size and cost. Its an investment in my mental health. But now with an apex that will cut the power, I'm not sure what ill do. But I've slept and traveled better knowing I won't cook my tank. hope this helps shit I just spent $40 to send a water sample to California so they could send it to germany to get it tested(triton) whats $100 for a heater??? lets face it this hobby is not cheep!! lol crimsonvice and Joe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
music Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Mine was a gift, and I am new to it. I will see how long it lasts, and share some feedback. Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, jeff70 said: Joe, my wife and I have had tanks since 1988. A malfunctioning heater took out a tank in the mid 90's , It was beautiful fowlr tank (had a tusk and emperotor along with elegance corals and big birdsnests ) and we really cut back to a small (29 gallon) with open brain and some mushrooms and a damsal. We moved in 2007 and moved everything into a 30 gal long with a sump and all went well. Twice we caught a heater that got stuck in the on position and were very lucky it didn't kill everything, about every 2-3 years the heater would fail. I've used in-line heaters and titanium with independent control. and everything fails, it just is catastrophic when it fails in the "on" position. these heaters have microprocessors that theoretically will not fail in the on position, although there are stories I've heard that don't agree with this. I use 2 200 watt because of the size and cost. Its an investment in my mental health. But now with an apex that will cut the power, I'm not sure what ill do. But I've slept and traveled better knowing I won't cook my tank. hope this helps shit I just spent $40 to send a water sample to California so they could send it to germany to get it tested(triton) whats $100 for a heater??? lets face it this hobby is not cheep!! lol Well put. Thank you for your experience. I am a firm believer of learning from others mistakes so that I don’t have to live through the same mistakes. This helped a lot. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, music said: Mine was a gift, and I am new to it. I will see how long it lasts, and share some feedback. Just so you know you started my mind in this direction. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
music Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe said: Just so you know you started my mind in this direction. Lol. It is a very pretty heater isn’t it? I really like the finnex heater in my sump though. If it was given to me I likely never would have gotten one. I do hope it lasts. It seems QT resets are hard on heaters. Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachegg Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I've had two over the years and currently use one in a small tank that I don't have a controller set up on. BRS has a video where they tested temp control on several heaters and the cobalt was the best even beating out a non thermostatically control heater controlled by an Apex. The video is worth checking out. With that said heaters fail and I had a cobalt fail after about 2 years and it did fail in the off mode. IMO if you are using a controller like Apex it's not worth the money but if you don't have one I would spend the extra money. So what kind of tank are you planning? Don't be holding out on us LOL. Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, zachegg said: I've had two over the years and currently use one in a small tank that I don't have a controller set up on. BRS has a video where they tested temp control on several heaters and the cobalt was the best even beating out a non thermostatically control heater controlled by an Apex. The video is worth checking out. With that said heaters fail and I had a cobalt fail after about 2 years and it did fail in the off mode. IMO if you are using a controller like Apex it's not worth the money but if you don't have one I would spend the extra money. So what kind of tank are you planning? Don't be holding out on us LOL. Thanks for the info. I plan on running an apex. This is the plan. Won’t be till this fall though. https://www.waterboxaquariums.com/product/silver-marine-70-3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachegg Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 51 minutes ago, Joe said: Thanks for the info. I plan on running an apex. This is the plan. Won’t be till this fall though. https://www.waterboxaquariums.com/product/silver-marine-70-3/ Nice Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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