Muttley000 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, lngliv3 said: Cause what's the other one pond liner ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk There are many builds on monster fish keepers done that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lngliv3 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Yea my wife would not go for that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lngliv3 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 On 2/14/2017 at 9:01 PM, Muttley000 said: That is about the same I paid I think. Haven't hit their website recently What website and what epoxy did you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley000 Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 US composites http://uscomposites.com/epoxy.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley000 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 Made a change to the sump. Don't laugh, I needed it to be reconfigurable, and may not be done playing. This is a 20" square I am hoping to grow Cheato in. I basically made an eggcrate box, and put it in front of the last baffle before my pumps in the return section of my sump. I am hoping to get a cheato ball to roll. I used some corrugated plastic to make sides and direct the flow in a way to get a gyre type motion. It took a couple tries but when I drop a clump of hair algae in there it rolls in a way I think will work. I am lighting it with a Kessil H380. I'll pick up a chain to hang the light then I just need to put the algae in. I don't currently have any cheato, but do have a couple different kinds of caleurpa I can start with until I get some. I wanted to take this step before putting the flucon in my system so I had some nutrient export while the algae is dying (hopefully) and the skimmer is off line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonvice Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 That is a nice set up. Did the kessil not come with a mount or hanging kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley000 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 It has a eyelet to hang from but I need to get something to hook to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley000 Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 Light is lighting! I put some feather and grape caleurpa in along with some Halimeda to see how it reacts. Need some Cheato! Levi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduong916 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I was wondering if this sump was still going strong? I'm having a custom tank made and I really want to build a sump using this method. The only problem is I've never worked with epoxy. It looks like you epoxied all of the wall layers before starting on the bottom of the tank. Did you have to sand the bottom of the walls before adding the bottom layer of epoxy? Does it hurt to make one thick layer instead of three thinner coats? And finally, can I add bulkheads after the sump is epoxied; would drilling be a problem after epoxying the box? Muttley000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley000 Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 Hi Jimmy! Welcome to the forum. This Sump is still going strong! This was my first time using epoxy like this. I did not pour epoxy until the entire thing was built. The epoxy I used did not require sanding between coats unless it was more than 24 hours time between pours. Because if this I did sand the bottom of the walls as high up as my epoxy was going, and then when I poured the 45’s in the corners I also sanded where they would be, just a light scuff to get the epoxy something to grab on to. I did it in layers so that if a bubble was entrapped there was zero chance of a leak path. I would ask the manufacturer about the thick pour but I don’t expect any issue there. When I did mine I drilled the bulk head holes ahead of time and oversized so I could put layers of epoxy on those edges So the wood was protected in the event of a bulkhead leaking. One tip if I were doing this again would be to have a hair dryer handy when you pour to pop the bubbles. I was blowing on them with my mouth and it did pop them but took forever. If you build one please share it! jakesweep and Birdman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduong916 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Thanks for the Info. I’ll definitely post here when I start. My sump will be 25”x60”x18” with a 40 gallon breeder inside for refugium and filter pad chamber. The water level in breeder will be at 12” and only 8” in a the plywood sump. With that being said it seems like I wouldn’t need to brace the tank and 3/4” plywood should do the trick without much bowing. 2 more questions and I think I can start. Did you pour the 45 filets in one pour? And how much left over material did you have? I’m hoping I can get away with three gallons. But after calculating surface area I’m about 70% of yours. So I’d probably need five gallons, unless you had a lot leftover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley000 Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 At that size and water level I doubt you will need any bracing with 3/4 plywood. Do use a good structural adhesive for any baffles like Momentive. I did pour the 45's in one pour and I had less than a gallon left when I was done but I did have a tape issue on one of the pours on the top edge (don't skimp on the quality of the masking tape and clamp boards on each side to reinforce!) that cost me about a quart of material. I do feel I went thicker than planned and necessary on almost every surface though because I had plenty. The shipping is a killer on this stuff though so having to get more will offset any savings. If you have extra do the bottom or inside of your stand. Not sure where you are located but I have white pigment you can have if that is what you plan to use. I would just have to check to make sure it was still good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduong916 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 When you tested your tank and had the 1/4" bow were baffles installed and how high was the water. I don't plan on adding any baffles to the sump so I'm hope bowing wont be an issue. I was going to throw a 40 gallon breeder into the sump but now that I think about it, I could break apart the glass from the numerous empty tanks I have lying around and caulk that into the sump. But I don't think I'll have a baffle fully across the short side of the tank, so no added strength. I am going to use the white pigment as well, but I'm way out here in Northern California. I really appreciate the offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley000 Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 No baffles at that point and I filled it to the top! Not sure what would happen over months if I left it that way though. If you observe bowing you could then add a brace like eurobracing on the long sides, but I see it very unlikely that will be necessary. The momentive bonds to the cured epoxy very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduong916 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Thanks for all the info, I'm going to start ordering everything I need. And you're right $120 to ship 7.5 gallon ughh. I'll be sure to post a new thread when it's done. Muttley000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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